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Rendering of 20-storey academic and student housing building at 808 Royal Avenue


Project Update, July 2024: Applicant-led consultation for this project has now closed. The applicant is currently reviewing feedback received.


What's being proposed?

Rezoning and Special Development Permit applications have been received to develop a 44-storey mixed-use building at 809-811 Carnarvon Street and 60-70 Eighth Street. The subject site is located within the New Westminster Station Transit Oriented Development Area (land within 800 meters of a SkyTrain station). The proposal includes 469 stratified residential units, at-grade retail units, and a 145-room hotel. A 160 sq. m. (1,720 sq. ft.) publically-accessible dog parklet is also proposed at the corner of Blackie Street at Victoria Street.

Though resident parking cannot be required in the TOD area, per Provincial requirements, the application includes 291 resident parking spaces and 24 visitor parking spaces. A total of 10 commercial parking spaces and 82 hotel parking spaces are also proposed. All off-street vehicle parking would be accommodated in a below-grade parkade. A total of 712 long-term and 24 short-term bicycle parking spaces would be provided.

Click here to view drawings of the proposed development.


How can I engage?

There are multiple opportunities for the public to provide feedback through the application review process. The review process is iterative and revisions are considered, based on engagement feedback, throughout the process. The process will first involve applicant-led consultation, review by City committees, followed by revisions based on the feedback, and then City-led consultation, before being presented to Council for consideration of approval.

Applicant-led Engagement

The applicant hosted an in-person open house on June 5, 2024 and survey responses and written feedback were accepted until June 27, 2024. The feedback has been reviewed by staff, and a summary of all feedback received will be included in a staff report that will be submitted to Council prior to their consideration of whether or not to approve the project.

The next opportunity to provide feedback on this project will be through City-led consultation, anticipated for Fall/Winter 2024. Check back here for updates.


What We Heard

During the applicant-led consultation, respondents indicated strong support for inclusion of ground-oriented retail units (76.3%), new housing units (72.9%), and the proposed hotel use (71.2%). The majority of community feedback focused on the following:

  • Support for the proposed program (residential units, ground-level retail, and hotel use);
  • Desire for smaller retail units with active uses;
  • Mixed feedback regarding building design and proposed unit sizes; and,
  • Concern about potential vehicle traffic impacts.

This feedback will be considered by the applicant as revisions are made to the project.


Project Update, July 2024: Applicant-led consultation for this project has now closed. The applicant is currently reviewing feedback received.


What's being proposed?

Rezoning and Special Development Permit applications have been received to develop a 44-storey mixed-use building at 809-811 Carnarvon Street and 60-70 Eighth Street. The subject site is located within the New Westminster Station Transit Oriented Development Area (land within 800 meters of a SkyTrain station). The proposal includes 469 stratified residential units, at-grade retail units, and a 145-room hotel. A 160 sq. m. (1,720 sq. ft.) publically-accessible dog parklet is also proposed at the corner of Blackie Street at Victoria Street.

Though resident parking cannot be required in the TOD area, per Provincial requirements, the application includes 291 resident parking spaces and 24 visitor parking spaces. A total of 10 commercial parking spaces and 82 hotel parking spaces are also proposed. All off-street vehicle parking would be accommodated in a below-grade parkade. A total of 712 long-term and 24 short-term bicycle parking spaces would be provided.

Click here to view drawings of the proposed development.


How can I engage?

There are multiple opportunities for the public to provide feedback through the application review process. The review process is iterative and revisions are considered, based on engagement feedback, throughout the process. The process will first involve applicant-led consultation, review by City committees, followed by revisions based on the feedback, and then City-led consultation, before being presented to Council for consideration of approval.

Applicant-led Engagement

The applicant hosted an in-person open house on June 5, 2024 and survey responses and written feedback were accepted until June 27, 2024. The feedback has been reviewed by staff, and a summary of all feedback received will be included in a staff report that will be submitted to Council prior to their consideration of whether or not to approve the project.

The next opportunity to provide feedback on this project will be through City-led consultation, anticipated for Fall/Winter 2024. Check back here for updates.


What We Heard

During the applicant-led consultation, respondents indicated strong support for inclusion of ground-oriented retail units (76.3%), new housing units (72.9%), and the proposed hotel use (71.2%). The majority of community feedback focused on the following:

  • Support for the proposed program (residential units, ground-level retail, and hotel use);
  • Desire for smaller retail units with active uses;
  • Mixed feedback regarding building design and proposed unit sizes; and,
  • Concern about potential vehicle traffic impacts.

This feedback will be considered by the applicant as revisions are made to the project.

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  • Share I have 2 questions. One during construction how will access for buses, and cars and trucks for parking on the street be maintained? It is particularly important that residents and existing retail businesses be able to park on the street or access the existing parkade near 888 Carnarvon. There is already significant issues with cars parked in the loading zone pushing trucks or other vehicles to park directly adjacent to the parkade exit making entering or leaving the parkade dangerous particularly for pedestrians. Secondly will the new crosswalk established right next to the parkade exit be relocated? It was moved there I believe when the crosswalk at the corner by 892 Carnarvon was closed during construction of the new tower on Carnarvon. The crosswalk makes exiting from the parkade even more difficult and potentially dangerous. on Facebook Share I have 2 questions. One during construction how will access for buses, and cars and trucks for parking on the street be maintained? It is particularly important that residents and existing retail businesses be able to park on the street or access the existing parkade near 888 Carnarvon. There is already significant issues with cars parked in the loading zone pushing trucks or other vehicles to park directly adjacent to the parkade exit making entering or leaving the parkade dangerous particularly for pedestrians. Secondly will the new crosswalk established right next to the parkade exit be relocated? It was moved there I believe when the crosswalk at the corner by 892 Carnarvon was closed during construction of the new tower on Carnarvon. The crosswalk makes exiting from the parkade even more difficult and potentially dangerous. on Twitter Share I have 2 questions. One during construction how will access for buses, and cars and trucks for parking on the street be maintained? It is particularly important that residents and existing retail businesses be able to park on the street or access the existing parkade near 888 Carnarvon. There is already significant issues with cars parked in the loading zone pushing trucks or other vehicles to park directly adjacent to the parkade exit making entering or leaving the parkade dangerous particularly for pedestrians. Secondly will the new crosswalk established right next to the parkade exit be relocated? It was moved there I believe when the crosswalk at the corner by 892 Carnarvon was closed during construction of the new tower on Carnarvon. The crosswalk makes exiting from the parkade even more difficult and potentially dangerous. on Linkedin Email I have 2 questions. One during construction how will access for buses, and cars and trucks for parking on the street be maintained? It is particularly important that residents and existing retail businesses be able to park on the street or access the existing parkade near 888 Carnarvon. There is already significant issues with cars parked in the loading zone pushing trucks or other vehicles to park directly adjacent to the parkade exit making entering or leaving the parkade dangerous particularly for pedestrians. Secondly will the new crosswalk established right next to the parkade exit be relocated? It was moved there I believe when the crosswalk at the corner by 892 Carnarvon was closed during construction of the new tower on Carnarvon. The crosswalk makes exiting from the parkade even more difficult and potentially dangerous. link

    I have 2 questions. One during construction how will access for buses, and cars and trucks for parking on the street be maintained? It is particularly important that residents and existing retail businesses be able to park on the street or access the existing parkade near 888 Carnarvon. There is already significant issues with cars parked in the loading zone pushing trucks or other vehicles to park directly adjacent to the parkade exit making entering or leaving the parkade dangerous particularly for pedestrians. Secondly will the new crosswalk established right next to the parkade exit be relocated? It was moved there I believe when the crosswalk at the corner by 892 Carnarvon was closed during construction of the new tower on Carnarvon. The crosswalk makes exiting from the parkade even more difficult and potentially dangerous.

    Sharn asked 8 days ago

    Thank you for your questions. If Council chooses to approve this project, a Building Permit would be required. Construction can only begin after issuance of the project’s Building (or Demolition) Permit. 

    As part of the Building Permit process, the applicant would be required to submit a Traffic Management Plan, which would be reviewed by City staff to ensure public safety is prioritized and neighbourhood livability impacts are minimized (please see the City’s website for more information). City staff also work closely with applicants and construction management companies to ensure they adhere to the Good Neighbour Protocol, which is a set of guidelines developed to minimize construction impacts on residents and businesses. Plans that propose to block access to underground parking on adjacent properties are generally not considered acceptable. Additionally, if a lane closure is needed on one road, there must be alternate ways to move throughout the neighbourhood with appropriate signage in place. 

    With respect to your second question, the temporary crosswalk at Blackie Street at Carnarvon Street was installed to enable pedestrian movement during construction of the project at 823 Carnarvon Street, and is anticipated to be removed shortly. However, staff note that the project at 811 Carnarvon Street would be would be required to contribute a number of pedestrian upgrades to Carnarvon Street including wider sidewalks and an improved intersection at Carnarvon Street at Eighth Street. 

  • Share Will the plazas and park be protected for public access? I am concerned as the public plaza at the new development at 6th and carnarvon was gated off. on Facebook Share Will the plazas and park be protected for public access? I am concerned as the public plaza at the new development at 6th and carnarvon was gated off. on Twitter Share Will the plazas and park be protected for public access? I am concerned as the public plaza at the new development at 6th and carnarvon was gated off. on Linkedin Email Will the plazas and park be protected for public access? I am concerned as the public plaza at the new development at 6th and carnarvon was gated off. link

    Will the plazas and park be protected for public access? I am concerned as the public plaza at the new development at 6th and carnarvon was gated off.

    Embiggins asked 2 months ago

    Thank you for your interest in the proposed development at 809-811 Carnarvon Street and 60-70 Eighth Street. The plaza at the corner of Agnes Street and Eighth Street, as well as the dog parklet at Victoria Street and Blackie Street, would be required to be legally secured for public access as a component of this project.

  • Share The local school is already overcapacity. Where are the kids in this development going to go to school. on Facebook Share The local school is already overcapacity. Where are the kids in this development going to go to school. on Twitter Share The local school is already overcapacity. Where are the kids in this development going to go to school. on Linkedin Email The local school is already overcapacity. Where are the kids in this development going to go to school. link

    The local school is already overcapacity. Where are the kids in this development going to go to school.

    RunnerMom66 asked 3 months ago

    Thank you for your interest in this project. Schools are important community facilities that are essential to the livability of our neighbourhoods. The Ministry of Education and Child Care is responsible for funding school capital projects, and short and long range planning for schools is the responsibility of the New Westminster School District. As the City continues to accommodate growth in accordance with Council’s Strategic Priorities and Provincial legislation, we actively collaborate with the District to ensure funding requests made to the Province are based on up-to-date information. Detail on development applications, such as this one, are provided to the District alongside information on our community’s housing needs, growth projections and targets, and other relevant data and policy.  

  • Share How will this development integrate with the nearby bus exchange at New Westminster SkyTrain Station? The drawings on page 6 entirely omit Frequent Transit Network bus routes that exit the exchange adjacent to the proposed development. The more detailed circulation diagram a few pages later have the routes but get the routing completely wrong. This is unacceptable as these bus routes moved thousands and thousands of people every single day. I would support this development as it's dense residential living exactly where it makes sense, but the developer needs to support the transit connections that makes this location as important as it is. The development should incorporate transit priority measures, perhaps using new municipal powers as outlined in Bill 16. Transit Signal Priority at Carnarvon & 8th, bus-only turn lanes... all of these should be considered as part of this development. Don't let this development that is based on proximity to transit (SkyTrain and bus) negatively impact that transit. Question: is there any possibility to have this development orient its street access differently to not have its main driveway almost right next to the bus exchange exit point? on Facebook Share How will this development integrate with the nearby bus exchange at New Westminster SkyTrain Station? The drawings on page 6 entirely omit Frequent Transit Network bus routes that exit the exchange adjacent to the proposed development. The more detailed circulation diagram a few pages later have the routes but get the routing completely wrong. This is unacceptable as these bus routes moved thousands and thousands of people every single day. I would support this development as it's dense residential living exactly where it makes sense, but the developer needs to support the transit connections that makes this location as important as it is. The development should incorporate transit priority measures, perhaps using new municipal powers as outlined in Bill 16. Transit Signal Priority at Carnarvon & 8th, bus-only turn lanes... all of these should be considered as part of this development. Don't let this development that is based on proximity to transit (SkyTrain and bus) negatively impact that transit. Question: is there any possibility to have this development orient its street access differently to not have its main driveway almost right next to the bus exchange exit point? on Twitter Share How will this development integrate with the nearby bus exchange at New Westminster SkyTrain Station? The drawings on page 6 entirely omit Frequent Transit Network bus routes that exit the exchange adjacent to the proposed development. The more detailed circulation diagram a few pages later have the routes but get the routing completely wrong. This is unacceptable as these bus routes moved thousands and thousands of people every single day. I would support this development as it's dense residential living exactly where it makes sense, but the developer needs to support the transit connections that makes this location as important as it is. The development should incorporate transit priority measures, perhaps using new municipal powers as outlined in Bill 16. Transit Signal Priority at Carnarvon & 8th, bus-only turn lanes... all of these should be considered as part of this development. Don't let this development that is based on proximity to transit (SkyTrain and bus) negatively impact that transit. Question: is there any possibility to have this development orient its street access differently to not have its main driveway almost right next to the bus exchange exit point? on Linkedin Email How will this development integrate with the nearby bus exchange at New Westminster SkyTrain Station? The drawings on page 6 entirely omit Frequent Transit Network bus routes that exit the exchange adjacent to the proposed development. The more detailed circulation diagram a few pages later have the routes but get the routing completely wrong. This is unacceptable as these bus routes moved thousands and thousands of people every single day. I would support this development as it's dense residential living exactly where it makes sense, but the developer needs to support the transit connections that makes this location as important as it is. The development should incorporate transit priority measures, perhaps using new municipal powers as outlined in Bill 16. Transit Signal Priority at Carnarvon & 8th, bus-only turn lanes... all of these should be considered as part of this development. Don't let this development that is based on proximity to transit (SkyTrain and bus) negatively impact that transit. Question: is there any possibility to have this development orient its street access differently to not have its main driveway almost right next to the bus exchange exit point? link

    How will this development integrate with the nearby bus exchange at New Westminster SkyTrain Station? The drawings on page 6 entirely omit Frequent Transit Network bus routes that exit the exchange adjacent to the proposed development. The more detailed circulation diagram a few pages later have the routes but get the routing completely wrong. This is unacceptable as these bus routes moved thousands and thousands of people every single day. I would support this development as it's dense residential living exactly where it makes sense, but the developer needs to support the transit connections that makes this location as important as it is. The development should incorporate transit priority measures, perhaps using new municipal powers as outlined in Bill 16. Transit Signal Priority at Carnarvon & 8th, bus-only turn lanes... all of these should be considered as part of this development. Don't let this development that is based on proximity to transit (SkyTrain and bus) negatively impact that transit. Question: is there any possibility to have this development orient its street access differently to not have its main driveway almost right next to the bus exchange exit point?

    Miken1ke asked 3 months ago

    Thank you for your interest in the proposed development at 809-811 Carnarvon Street and 60-70 Eighth Street. This application will be required to comply with the Downtown Transportation Plan (DTP), which characterizes Eighth Street and Carnarvon Street as Complete Streets. The DTP directs future work to redesign these roadways to provide space for walking, transit, and cycling. Consistent with the expectations of the DTP, the application proposes an expanded sidewalk and boulevard area along Carnarvon Street and Eighth Street, as well as protected cycling facilities on Eighth Street. These changes are not expected to negatively impact the flow of buses along Carnarvon Street. Design of the public realm is currently preliminary in nature and will be refined as the project progresses. 

     

    Regarding vehicle access to the development, this is currently proposed from Blackie Street, near the intersection of Blackie Street at Victoria Street. Blackie Street is a local road which provides access to nearby developments as well as a connection between Carnarvon Street and Royal Avenue. 

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